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 WAG BAGS
To purchase Wag Bags from Southwinds at 10 for $30, contact editor@southwindsmagazine.com
or call 941-795-8704. Credit Cards accepted.

Two Articles on this page on Wag Bags:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                This article originally appeared in the October 2007 issue

 

Wag Bags : Bucket-and-Chuck-It or Wag-and-Bag-It?

By Robbie Johnson

S/V Tahiti Rover   

There are probably few topics more contentious among boaters than the issue of marine head discharges and the environmentally-correct handling of so-called “black water” waste. It is no small irony that over 90 percent of all boats in the United States are less than 18 feet in length, are powered by outboard motors, and are without a marine head, while it is the minority of boaters with larger vessels and installed marine heads that catch all the flack from legislators and law enforcement. You just know the huge recreational population using those smaller boats are taking the bucket-and-chuck-it approach, but woe betide the hapless sailor or liveaboard who would discharge black water waste through his boat’s thru-hull! Therein lies the nexus of the situation: how to pass black water waste from the boat in a legal and environmentally correct way? Are holding tanks, pump-out stations, and expensive on-board treatment systems the only answer?

 

               Wag Bags

 

            Lin and Larry Pardey, circumnavigators and prolific authors, are one of the best-known and most respected sailing couples. They were asked how they handle the black water discharge situation when they are cruising in U.S. waters (see their full answer at www.landlpardey.com/Tips/2006/March.html). The answer this savvy, world-cruising couple gave was, like their approach to the sailing life, simple and direct. They have no installed marine head with thru-hull fittings. When offshore, they use a bucket and chuck it. When sailing in environmentally sensitive United States waters, and also when in small anchorages or marinas in foreign countries where dumping a bucket of solid waste would be offensive to all concerned, they use Wag Bags.

            Wag Bags? Yep, a simple, inexpensive, no-moving parts, and environmentally-friendly approach to handling black water waste generated on a boat. The Pardeys explain it best: “Bucket-and-chuck-it may be okay in open areas, but we find it a discomforting choice in pristine anchorages or in enclosed marinas anywhere in the world. We have no installed head due to our dislike of holding tanks, so we have made an enclosure with seat and lid for a bucket and have come up with solutions that we feel work well. Offshore, we use the bucket-and-chuck-it system. Near shore or in enclosed anchorages, we use Wag Bags in the bucket. These fully biodegradable bags…contain a special powder (called Pooh-Powder) that turns urine into a gel and deodorizes the waste. The special enzymes in the gel also kill bacteria and promote the breakdown of waste and bags. After using the bag (one bag can be used five or six times), we simply seal it into the separate biodegradable pouch supplied with each kit. Then it can be deposited in the trash for disposal at landfills.”

            Relax, fellow sailors! It is not necessary to remove your installed marine head to use Wag Bags. The biodegradable bags are designed to fit inside a standard toilet or marine head. To be perfectly legal and avoid any hassles with the water police, simply disconnect the intake and discharge hoses from your marine head, (close the seacocks first, of course) and put a Wag Bag in the head’s bowl. It is as easy as putting a plastic trash bag liner in a kitchen trash can. As the Pardeys point out, the bags may be used multiple times before they need to be changed. Simply reconnect your head to the thru-hulls when going offshore.

 

                 Wag Bag kit

The Wag Bag installed in a marine toilet. Pooh-Powder is in the center and comes in the Wag Bag. The bag on the seat is the disposal bag that the used Wag Bag bag in the toilet can be sealed in. That can be dumped safely in the trash going to a landfill.

 

            The Wag Bag’s manufacturer, Phillips Environmental Products (www.thepett.com), gives this explanation of its product: The WAG system is actually “two bags; one funnel-shaped waste collection bag pre-loaded with Pooh Powder waste treatment used to contain the waste, and a heavy gauge zip-close bag (12" x 10") to secure and transport waste. They are approved for disposal with normal trash as Group II non-hazardous waste. The bags will work in any dry marine, RV, or household toilet. The bioactive non-toxic gelling powder that encapsulates liquid and solid waste, neutralizes odors, initiates and accelerates decomposition.”

            I already know what you’re thinking: How often can I use a Wag Bag before tossing it? And does that Pooh-Powder really control the odor? As for me, I probably average using one Wag Bag every 5-7 days depending, but I would guess the average live-aboard boating couple would use two bags a week if they are eating at least two meals aboard and each voiding at least once a day while aboard. I stress the word “guess” because the volume of waste generated varies so much with different individuals. The Pardeys say they use a Wag Bag 5 or 6 times before tossing it. Me, I get up early in the morning and spend the greater part of my waking hours ashore, so I use shoreside toilets more often than my boat’s head. My head’s Wag Bag gets more frequent use on the weekend than during the week.

            I have not found odor to be an issue. Wag Bags are pre-loaded with the patented Pooh-Powder and will convert approximately 31-32 ounces of urine into a non-spillable gel, while also initiating the decomposition process of the solid waste. Pooh-Powder is an odor neutralizer, not a perfume. When I first began using Wag Bags, I bought an extra container of Pooh-Powder just in case, but I don’t recall ever having to use it. If you think you may have an overly sensitive nose, you can conduct your own odor field test by just buying a container of the Pooh-Powder and using a plastic kitchen trash bag in the bowl of your marine head.

            However, when it comes to disposal the Wag Bag is superior to the trash bag approach because when filled to capacity, the Wag Bag’s top is easily sealed, then placed in a 12” x 10” heavy gauge, zip-close, puncture-resistant transport bag that virtually eliminates the kind of accident no one wants to deal with. The transport bag is also biodegradable and approved for disposal in a trash can or Dumpster. Each Wag Bag kit comes with a funnel-shaped toilet bowl liner bag that is pre-loaded with Pooh-Powder, plus a heavy-gauge transport bag, toilet paper and sanitary wipes.

           

           So what is the cost of this simple, viable alternative to holding tanks, pump-out stations, expensive on-board treatment systems and midnight anchorage raids by the water police? Wag Bags can be purchased from Southwinds Magazine at one for $4 or 10 for $30, plus shipping. Contact editor@southwindsmagazine.com or call 941-795-8704. Now how easy and inexpensive is that to settle all the inconvenience, hassle and paranoia besetting Florida sailors and liveaboards in dealing with black water waste disposal?

           Wag Bags can be used in any toilet or Porta Potty, or about any situation, including a 5-gallon bucket.

 

            


                                              

This article was printed in the January, 2008 issue of Southwinds Magazine in the “Our Waterways” section and can be downloaded and read online at www.southwindsmagazine.com.

 

Using Wag Bags, Steve Morrell, Editor, Southwinds Magazine, (941) 795-8704, editor@southwindsmagazine.com

 

In the October 2007 issue, we printed an article on using Wag Bags as a method of disposing of human waste onboard boats. This article can be viewed on our Web site, www.southwindsmagazine.com, by downloading the October 2007 issue and going to page 36, or, for those who do not have broadband—or want quicker access to the article—you can read the article on the “Our Waterways” page accessed from the home page.

            When I first received the Wag Bags, I tested them in my home. I took all the water out of a toilet and put the wag bag in the toilet. The bags are quite large and there is plenty of room to put the bag in there and overlap it over the sides. I then used the bags for three days for #1 and #2. (For those of you who do not understand this number system, #2 is generally more solid and #1 is always liquid, often called urine or “piss” or “pee.”) For urination, the bags work well and the powder (Pooh Powder, as it is officially called) in the bags solidifies/gels the urine pretty well, even with a fair amount of liquid. I had some extra powder, so I helped it along after several pisses. This is important with three days of pissing.

            For #2, it was pushing it after the first time with that smell we are all so familiar with (it comes with life). I sprinkled some extra powder over it, but I couldn’t tell that it reduced the smell, so I dropped the top down over the toilet. That contained it pretty well, but I did close the door to the bathroom—encasing the smell in the room. When I returned, there was enough of a smell that I knew I must choose a different tactic. So I lifted the seat up and took the Wag Bag and lightly closed it in on itself. This worked in containing the smell and, of course, I opened it up every time I used it again. (Don’t try this in the dark, because it could be a disaster if you forget, like in the middle of the night.)

            After three days and three #2s and several pisses, I decided that was more than enough, so I removed the bag from the toilet and put it in the sealable bag that comes with the kit and is part of the Wag Bag system. I took this and put it on the garage floor next to the trash can to test and see if the smell would be noticeable after one day. I really could not smell it being in the room, but when I picked it up and put the nose nearby, there was a slight undesirable odor. At that point, it went into the trash can.

            I believe we are the only boating magazine promoting Wag Bags and selling them for marine use. At the Strictly Sail St. Pete boat show, we sold out the few I ordered on the first day (the slowest day!), as it appears people were real interested after reading the article in the October issue. Since then, I have sold another 50 out of the magazine ad and intend to keep promoting them. (I am not making it rich off these Wag Bags, but I am promoting them as part of Southwinds’ ongoing effort of educating the world population on various subjects.)

            There is a lot to learn about the use of Wag Bags on boats, and I am asking those who have bought them—and others who might have used them—to let us know what they learned about using them. We can then pass this information on to others in future issues. At this point, I believe they can be a valuable tool in dealing with human waste on boats. For those who have LectraSans, they are the answer when you go to places that do not allow any dumping of any waste (even treated), as in the Florida Keys. They can also be used in an emergency if you are anchored out and find, by surprise, that your holding tank is full. Wag Bags can be kept on board just for such an emergency. They can also be useful if you just plain can’t stand holding tanks, which could be the majority of the population.

            I did meet one couple at the boat show who, I will say, were around 70 years old, give or take a few years (since they might be reading this, I think this is a good respectable guess in honor of them), who had been using Wag Bags for several years. They used them all the time, especially when they had their children and grandchildren on board on a short cruise. They were very satisfied with using them as a solution to onboard human waste. They stored the used bags in a container in a compartment under the V-berth of their boat where they slept. They said they never had any problem with the smell in that location, which is important, as storage of the used bags is an important concern.

            Please let us know of your experiences with Wag Bags via e-mail to editor@southwindsmagazine.com, if possible, and if not, then call at (941) 795-8704. We will print your ideas and suggestions and what you have learned in future articles to exchange ideas on their use. You can also order them at those same contacts ($30 for 10, plus shipping and applicable sales tax, or available for pickup in Bradenton, FL).

            Don’t worry, we will not print your name if you prefer us not to, as I know that for some—this is a very delicate subject—and we want the good along with the bad, including all the embarrassing facts and bad experiences, as well, which in the name of science, we will not refrain from printing.